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Zemsta

Revenge
2011 - 2015
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Kto się boi spoilerów niech dalej nie czyta, bo wywiad z twórcą serialu (Mike Kelley) rozjaśnia parę kwestii. Wywiad jest po angielsku, po polsku zamieszczam skrót na końcu.

Was it always your plan for Tyler (Ashton Holmes) to be the person killed on the beach or were you considering killing Daniel?
It was planned from the beginning, that was always who I had planned on. We didn't introduce Tyler until episode three, but I had pitched that out to the network as the guy that would be the body on the beach from the beginning. As we got into the run of the episodes we really, really liked him, the actor and the character, and he provided so much story that there were moments where I considered it not being Tyler as the dead person. In those moments when I was mad at Daniel, not the actor, but the character and I thought, "Well, maybe I'll put him on the beach." We went back and forth a couple times, but really that was the plan from the beginning.

People still have a lot of questions about what exactly went down on the beach. When can we expect to find out what happened?
You'll actually find that out in episode 16. You will have all the answers to all your questions in 16, which is the episode after the party on the beach.

So we'll also learn what happened to Amanda, who was taken away by Takeda at the end of the episode?
You won't learn exactly what happens to Amanda until the end of the season.

Will her disappearance play a large part of Jack's (Nick Wechsler) storyline moving forward?
Yes, it will be a part of Jack's story. What we're doing in episode 18 will service a lot of these questions through 17 and then we're bouncing to the holidays in the Hamptons. In episode 18 we're playing through the winter and the off-season in the resort town, which is very spooky and cool and snowy.

Vivian Zink/ABC The first half of the season was driving towards the Fire and Ice party. Is it safe to say the second half is going to be the conclusion of the murder trial in the finale?
You know what? We resolve that way before we get to the end of the season and where this is really driving is towards, oh boy, I always struggle with what to give away. It's all heading towards the larger reason that Emily came back to the Hamptons. We're getting away from the murder on the beach and by the time we get to the end of the season we're going to be in the larger mythology.

Going forward, are we going to see more of the traditional stand-alone takedown episodes?
We are not going to see the traditional take-down episode as we did until the end of this season. The idea of the stand-alone takedown is what is going to help us sustain the series as we move out of season one and into the future seasons. We love that the show lives in a bunch of different places and we love that there is so many different kinds of episodes of Revenge. You've got a romantic triangle, you've got the individual takedowns, you've got the deep mythology of the show, the past stories to tell. We're doing an aberrant episode in episode 20, which is it all takes place in 2003 and so we're really broadening the canvas and I think that is really what is going to help us sustain.

A flashback episode set in 2003? Tell us more!
We're going to open up in 2003, it's all surrounding that photograph that was in Lydia's (Amber Valletta) apartment that had Emily in the background with champagne at a New Year's Eve party. It's all about that weekend and we're not setting it up; we're just basically doing an episode of Revenge in 2003. It's really fun.

So we'll be seeing Lydia again?
You should expect to see her, yes. You will see her in the present coming up as well.

Looking ahead, is there anything you are hoping to do in season two?
Well, you know how we opened up season one with the engagement party? I can tell you that season two we are looking at opening with a flash forward to a wedding, to Emily's wedding we just don't know to who. Well, I know who, but you don't. And then season three we're talking about opening the flash forward at a funeral and you don't know who that is either. So we like the idea of showing a glimpse into the future and then building towards it. So those are kind of corners of seasons two and three.

So will the flash forwards always be revealed around episode 13 or 15?
Yup. It seems to work for us, so we're going to try. I like delivering on a promise in the opening of the show and I just don't want to people to wonder whether or not that happened. I want them to feel like they're in good hands.

Can fans expect to see another big death this season?
They can. The answer is yes and it's going to be surprising.

Dla nieznających angielskiego w skrócie:
- od początku było wiadomo, że Daniel przeżyje, chociaż producent trochę się wahał kiedy okazało się jak popularna postacią jest Tyler
- wszystkie pytania związane z tym, co stało się na plaży, znajdą odpowiedź w odcinku 16
- co Takeda zrobił z Fauxmandą dowiemy się na oniec sezonu
- jej zniknięcie będzie częścią wątku Jacka, ta kwestia będzie poruszona w 17 i 18 odcinku, potem akcja przeskakuje do zimy i świąt
- wątek morderstwa i procesu będzie rozwiązany znacznie wcześniej przed końcem sezonu, bo to nie jest istotą serialu
- nie będzie zemsty na odcinek (tak jak na początku serialu) aż do końca sezonu
- będzie odcinek retrospekcyjny z akcją wokół przyjęcia z 2003 r., na którym zostało zrobione zdjęcie z Victorią, Lydią i (wtedy jeszcze) Amandą
- Lydia pojawi się też w odcinku dziejącym się w czasie teraźniejszym
- sezon 2 zacznie się sceną z przyszłości - ślubem Emily, a sezon 3 pogrzebem
- sceny te zostaną wyjaśnione w odcinach 13-15
- fani mogą się spodziewać śmierci kolejnej ważnej postaci i będzie to zaskakujące.

Jestem zadowolona, że najwyraźniej nie ruszyli z pomysłem zupełnie nowego wątku i nowych bohaterów na ażdy sezon.

milkaway

Ja jestem zaskoczony, ale nie pozytywnie. Miałem nadzieje, że będzie to jedno sezonowiec typu wyspa harpera, a tu widżę robią tasiemczucha... Szkoda.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
ari92

Oj co się z ciebie zrobił taki Pan Negatywny ostatnimi czasy? :)
Ja się cieszę, bo wciągnął mnie ten dany wątek z tymi postaciami, a nie format serialu. Nowy sezon z zupełnie nową misją zemsty na pewno nie byłby tak satysfakcjonujący.

milkaway

Co za dużo to nie zdrowo. Miał być jeden sezon i tak by było najlepiej, a jak teraz zaczną przeciągać na siłe fabuyłe na 3 sezonu to będzie neiciekawie, bo nigdy nic dobrego z takiego czegoś nei wychodzi. A narzekam bo i serial zaczął sie psuć. Twórcy mnie zawiedli swoim brakiem profesjonalizmu, nie podołali szansie, którą dostali czyli 22 zamiast 13 odc.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
ari92

Mnie jeszcze nie zawiedli i nie zapowiada się, że w najbliższym czasie to nastapi, a tylko jednego sezonu poświęconemu Emily nikt nie obiecywał ani oficjalnie nie ogłaszał. :)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
milkaway

Kolejny wywiad z twórcą serialu, jesli ktoś życzy sobie skrót po polsku niech pisze.

TV GUIDE: A lot of people think Takeda did it. Will he be back?
Mike Kelley: He definitely has Amanda. So yes, Takeda is somebody that will return. He's a big part of Emily's transformation into Emily Thorne, so she'll continue to need to rely on him as we move forward for help and guidance and it's not always going to be a smooth ride.

How will Emily's plan change in the wake of the Fire & Ice Ball?
Kelley: New pieces of information are going to rise in the next couple of episodes that re-focus her on Conrad and Victoria, and set her feet really firmly back on the path for revenge. It's a big surprise to her just how deep the rabbit hole goes with Victoria and Conrad in regards to David Clarke.

What will her relationship with Daniel look like after everything that's happened?
Kelley: Daniel is no longer going to be the dupe in the middle of the tug of war between Emily and his mother. He's going to man-up and he's going to start making a few dark turns. He is, after all, a Grayson so his DNA is going to start to win out over his better side. ... Daniel's hands are not clean right now. Literally, they are covered in blood. You're going to learn things about Daniel that I think are going to surprise and he's learning things about himself that are surprising.

What does that mean for the love triangle between Daniel, Emily and Jack?
Kelley: The triangle will definitely heat up. Emily and Jack are going to forge a bond. There's going to be some increased tension between Daniel and Jack because Jack was there on the beach that night and Jack has Daniel's phone. Jack is going to clue in a little bit more to Daniel. He's going to get drawn in a little bit deeper and he's going to go into protection mode where Emily is concerned. That will be both alluring for Emily and a new challenge for her. Her heart's actually going to be torn.

How will Victoria's new love interest enter the picture?
Kelley: This guy is somebody that's hooked into her deep past from before Conrad and David Clarke, somebody with intimate knowledge of the young Victoria and who she was before she started making all of these very dark choices. He's part of one of her very first dark choices. There's a lot of passion, a lot of danger and a lot of honesty that is going to surface with this guy.

How will his return affect Victoria going forward and her feelings about the family and about Emily?
Kelley: The relationship pops up as more of a secret for Victoria to keep. It's something that will — when it comes to light — become a problem. She will meet her former lover again in Episode 17 and then we will jump forward several months into the winter in Episode 18 and they will have continued on this affair and have become quite close.

Is there going to be someone new coming into Conrad's love life?
Kelley: There will be a resurgent love interest in Conrad's love life, but not necessarily someone new.

Will Charlotte continue on her spiral? How far down that path will she go?
Kelley: Pretty far. You'll see that she's going to have good reason to want to numb the pain. It's going to be really hard. The darker we go with Charlotte, the more kindred Emily feels with her. The same way that Daniel is a Grayson and Declan is a Porter, Charlotte is a Clarke. So the darkness that is surfacing in Charlotte has connective tissue between Emily and her and is going to provide a lot of story.

Will Charlotte try to learn more about her real father? Will that threaten Emily's secret?
Kelley: Absolutely, that's part of what fuels her darkness and her isolation. It's also part of the reason why Emily will want to stay closer to her, to make sure that whatever she discovers or needs to know, that Emily has control over that.

You said in an earlier interview that there will be another death on the show. How will that death impact the show?
Kelley: It will have a deep impact. It's not an extra that's getting killed. [The person] is part of our cast so it will have a big impact.

The first half of the season was building toward the Fire & Ice Ball. What is the rest of the season building towards?
Kelley: I like that show is without a net. I think the audience is going to really find it liberating to feel like they're on an adventure that is uncharted for them. ... I think the audience is going to be more surprised than they were before and that the guessing game is going to get a little bit harder. By the time we get to episode 22, everything about Season 1 will all come back to the murder on the beach and then that drives the last seven episodes. At the end of it, I think people will feel that a very significant book of Revenge has been written and it will free us up to do another book next season.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
milkaway

Promo wyemitowane w Oscarową noc. Fantastyczne. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ocNaDs-9FQ

milkaway

Fantastyczne było promo do 11 odc. To szczerze mówiac wygląda śmiesznie. Typowo jak dla opery mydlanej, a pojawiajaca sie na koniec Emily przywodzi na myśl reklame Taft czy innego gówna do włosów.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
ari92

Wyrzuć wszystko z siebie. :)
Promo do odc. 11 niczym mnie nie zachwyciło, było nawet dla mnie przedramatyzowane. A to jest bardzo fajne, wystylizowane i, co najważniejsze, nie na poważnie. Puszczają oko do widza i to mi się podoba.

milkaway

Widać inne mamy gusta :P Ja wolę dramatyzm i napięcie, od operowego kiczu w stylu reklamy lakieru do włosów.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
ari92

Akurat dla mnie bardziej kiczowato wyglądało tamte promo - poważne miny, szaleniec mierzący po kolei do wszystkich z pistoletu, itp. itd. Odcinek był super, ale promo ani mnie ziębiło, ani grzało.
Natomiast to mi się podoba, bo bawi się konwencją. A szczerze mówiąc, ma taki charakter jaki serial ma od początku.
I jeśli już dysutujemy to proszę bez protekcjonalnych szpileczek.

milkaway

Stanowczo nie zgadzam się, że serial ma tak kiczowaty charakter od początku. Lubię ten serial, bardzo mi się podoba ma w sobie coś co sprawia, że w moich oczach to widowisku wybija sie ponad inne aktualnie serwowane. Troche mnie zawiedli 15 odc. cos im się posypało, tak jakby się poddali w pewnej kwestii i oddali się woli mas. A takie promo pasowałoby do Ringer'a, który jest kiczem i jest o kilka poziomów nizej od Revenge, a w zasadzie nie dorasta mu do pięt. Seriale typu Revenge powinny być jedno sezonowcami, tak jak było to w przypadku wyspy harpera. W wyspie popsuło się od chyba 10 czy 11 odc., ale dzięki tym 10, które jedne po drugim były co raz lepsze, serial zachował twarz. Tutaj niestety planują na siłe brnąć dalej, a w 15 ep. zaczeło sie psuć.

ari92

Jak dla mnie ten serial to od samego początku telenowela ale całkiem ładnie i sprawnie zrobiona.Kicz?sorry ale wg.niektórych norm kiczem jest wszystko co jest popularne.Zgadzam się Revenge powinien być jedno sezonowcem wtedy miałby najwięcej sensu a robienie kolejnych sezonów to zazwyczaj dobrze się nie kończy,scenarzyści mogą mieć problem z wykonaniem porządnego materiału na dalszy okres, a niech no oglądalność nawali to klapa i końca serialu nie zobaczymy a abc znana jest z canceli a kładła już naprawdę dobre seriale jak np.Prey..

szarit

Dokładnie. A ja wolę porządnego jedno sezonowca niż na siłe przeciągany serial, który jeszcze dodatkowo zostałby anulowany.

ari92

wie ktoś, kiedy będzie kolejny odcinek?

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Dodo140

Niestety dopiero w kwietniu.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
milkaway

Kolejna porcja spoilerów.

"You are going to see a very much darker side of Daniel," executive producer Mike Kelley told our friends at E!. "It's really interesting. We're actually heading toward the end of the season where he definitely takes a turn and in a lot of ways helps Emily stay focused on what her reason for coming out to the Hamptons was in the first place."

Uh oh. Does that mean that the romance goes out of the picture?

Nope.

Emily will turn some of her focus toward Jack as he becomes more involved in the murder case. "He's pretty screwed," Kelley admits. "Don't worry. He'll have Emily on his side. You'll want Emily on your side when you're screwed." Now that Amanda is gone, Jack's feelings for Emily will surface again, and we can expect to see that love triangle grow more intense in future episodes building toward a wedding in Season 2... though we won't find out the groom until later.

One man can be ruled out completely: Nolan. Kelley says that Nolan and Emily are not ever going to hook up. Sorry, shippers! These two are strictly platonic -- and Kelley even says that a kiss between them would border on incestuous. "We're going to get into that sort of family feeling between the two of them. They're kind of a weird brother-sister to me and that is by design. David Clarke was his father figure really," he says. "The fact that people want them to kiss weirds me out because they are never going to kiss. No, I think of them as brother and sister and no more."

milkaway

Też uważam że ten serial powinien być jednosezonowcem, całością, zakończoną wyjaśnieniem całego spisku pod koniec sezonu w epickim finale. Serial trzymał bardzo dobry poziom mimo zbędnych moim zdaniem retrospekcji (mam na myśli odcinek z przeszłości). IMO w zależności od oglądalności i innych mierników sukcesu produkcji, mogły by powstawać spin-offy a tak serial pewnie przerwą w połowie któregoś z kolejnych sezonów albo na siłę zakończą w jednym podwójnym odcinku albo nawet zwykłym.