Refine you speech, beacouse you do not explained us your ansawer :-)

i expected something more than just a "one man theatre" kind of shit. however i'm not that much into the european cinema, i decided to give this picture a chance. and i'm disappointed.

well, when you go to the cinema for "one man theatre kind of shit" and you expect more - you can be disappointed.
So - what was that, you were expecting? More mens? ;>

Okey, okey... Maybe Essential Killing is not fantastic film with f.uckin' great special effect but he got that something. And that makes him the magic film. I know, I know... Polish viewers do not understand what the message this film brings together. That is my personal opinion.

I haven't seen it yet so I won't judge it, but I've heard that this movie was pretty simple. And there is nothing wrong in simplicity. However - probably that is whole problem - people often don't understand the beauty of minimalism. And this charm you were talking about - well not everyone is so sensitive. I'll start to argue after I check it for myself. But for now I can only express how mutch I was surprised by the fact that film whitch made such an impact is so badly rated.

i expected more action, more suggestive scenes and last but not least: last thing i expected was this hut, where that deaf woman took care of the terrorist. R we that far behind? you gotta B kiddin' me.

are fair criticisms that can be made about it but reading the forum here, it sounds like many Poles only see what they perceive as an offensive picture of Poland and Poles. I really doubt Skolimowski meant to offend and I think that this criticism is overshadowing all other aspects of how a lot of people receive the movie. Skolimowski has said the movie was meant to be non-specific on locations and time (though it appears 2002-2005) and I think the "hut" fits in with that - and I have been in houses EXACTLY like that recently in Poland (same tile stoves, old TV, etc) and I have seen people look and behave just the same when in deep rural country Poland (and I've seen cursing and drunk fisherman and hunters in other countries, too). Is that the way everything is in Poland in 2011? Of course not. Was meant to be an advertisement for tourism?
The other main criticism I read here is the one of plausibility issues. There are a few though nothing compared to any mainstream action movie. Just watch "Salt" if you want to see implausible.

Great interview in English with Skolimowski here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfoQKGOaOEY

That got cut off - once agin:

If we are talking in English...

I think a big problem was expectations. the trailer and poster make it look like a big movie with lots of explosions and it's understandable that people could be disappointed if thats what they were expecting. aIt is a movie like Eddy says about "the beauty of minimalism". It's not a movie for the mainstream multiplex audiences.

I think there are fair criticisms that can be made about it but reading the forum here, it sounds like many Poles only see what they perceive as an offensive picture of Poland and Poles. I really doubt Skolimowski meant to offend and I think that this criticism is overshadowing all other aspects of how a lot of people receive the movie. Skolimowski has said the movie was meant to be non-specific on locations and time (though it appears 2002-2005) and I think the "hut" fits in with that - and I have been in houses EXACTLY like that recently in Poland (same tile stoves, old TV, etc) and I have seen people look and behave just the same when in deep rural country Poland (and I've seen cursing and drunk fisherman and hunters in other countries, too). Is that the way everything is in Poland in 2011? Of course not. Was meant to be an advertisement for tourism?
The other main criticism I read here is the one of plausibility issues. There are a few though nothing compared to any mainstream action movie. Just watch "Salt" if you want to see implausible.

Great interview in English with Skolimowski here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfoQKGOaOEY

thanks a lot for posting this link. I'm watching it now and it's really intresting. I saw a read some interviews with this guy and I must admit that I enjoyed that pretty mutch. Skolimowski is very secretive person - he dosn't like to come out of the shadow to often, but when he decides to speak it's truely intresting to listen.

You're welcome. I thought it was a really good interview. Also good to get the context of his discomfort with political topics because of his experience after making "Ręce do Góry". Last time I was in Poland I bought the 4 DVD set of his early movies that TVP put out and it has English subtitles :-) and I liked that movie, too.

thanks for sharing bobik. you're right, that trailers was tricky and i expected something else, maybe not like salt, but still. funny thing is that it wasn't my intention to keep this topic in english, hell no;) i posted it to start a discussion with my homeboy Borys69, just like we did here (we like to fool around a lil' bit):

http://www.filmweb.pl/film/Candyman+III+Dzie%C5%84+umar%C5%82ych-1999-35732/disc ussion/nie+id%C5%BAcie+t%C4%85+drog%C4%85!,1301719

"unfortunately", he didn't respond on time and i got involved with that taughting discussion with you guys:) as you have probably seen, i didn't rate Essential Killing that bad, i do not consider it as crap (i do not consider myself as an expert in judging films too;). i'm just a popcorn eating spectator and i missed my chilled coke in that oldfashioned MUZA cinema;). that would be all, thank you;)

Thanks, Blacha, I didn't think the intent was for it to be in English - but after half a dozen posts in English, I figured it was okay to write in my own language (as much as I like google translate, much gets lost).

I did notice that you didn't rate it as a 1/10 or anything and I don't rate it 10/10 (though I think it is a solid 8 or 9 but that is largely because it is so different - I like popcorn movies too - but Essential Killing was one of the more unusual and interesting movies I've seen in a long time to my own tastes). I do think there are things that can be criticized about the movie but when I read through the posts on here, it is mainly 2 complaints:

1. is is somehow "anti-Polish":
It does not show an ideal or complete image of modern Poland it is true. It is also true that people and places like those show do exist in Poland (and in other countries too) and denying that is dishonest IMO.
2. that there are too many implausible aspects to the plot:
this is true of any survival or action movie but this one bothers me here on filmweb as it is usually coming from people that were disappointed that it was not like a normal Hollywood action movie - and they have way, way more plausibility problems.

Again, I understand people being upset expecting one thing and getting something entirely different (what looks like a marketing problem) but I think a lot of the people here get upset about what they perceive as anti-Polish (or the breast scene) and can't see the movie clearly beyond that. I started reading this forum after the wins at Venice and I was expecting some national pride (like with football games...) and was surprised at the general negativity. Much about the Polish soul I don't understand ;-)

Best greetings and enjoy your popcorn and coke!

fajnie. niektórzy tutaj nawet znają angielski na poziomie podstawowym. gratuluję.

y tu, cabrón? hablas ingles? podemos cambiar el idioma, si no entiendes. o puedo traducir, especialmente para ti.

google translator rulez! ;D

+1 ;-)

+1

Again, on the outsider's perspective, Jack Nicholson calls Essential Killing the best film of 2010:
http://www.stopklatka.pl/wydarzenia/wydarzenie.asp?wi=73190

Jack knows better:) i admire him as an actor and as a Lakers fan:)