Chibi-Chibi to ogólnie porządne, kochane dziecko było - jak ciągnęła Usagi za ogonek podczas rozmowy z Seiyą albo wylazła na balkon, jak ten stalkera odgrywał... ;)

Cały odcinek w domu Usagi to taka trochę parodia :) Jak Aluminium Siren mówi Outerkom, by zdjęły buty ze stołu ;)
Rozwala mnie, jak Seiya/Usagi podniecają się tym, że Seiya był u niej w domu - jak zanim się wszyscy zwalili, minęło góra pięć minut.
Luna chyba bardziej się obawiała, by Seiya się nie rzucił na Usagi. Ale na koleżanki Usagi to wnerwiona byłam.... Może dziwiło je, że Usagi nie gada cały czas o Mamoru, jak w SuperS...

Napisałam i się skasowało, ech :(

He has no fashion sense

His clothes are not so bad - besides he's a nerd, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to fashion.
But he doean't look as bad as some people think. His formal suits are ok - both black and white one. He looks also alright in casual t-shirts with jeans - or the white shirt with brown jacket (no wonder Yumeni Yumeno chose him as her model!). His semi-formal look is also good - especially with rolled up sleeves or loosened tie.

Besides, Mamoru is so handsome he would look fine even in a dish rag.

He has no fashion sense

His clothes are not so bad - besides he's a nerd, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to fashion.
But he doean't look as bad as some people think. His formal suits are ok - both black and white one. He looks also alright in casual t-shirts with jeans - or the white shirt with brown jacket (no wonder Yumeni Yumeno chose him as her model!). His semi-formal look is also good - especially with rolled up sleeves or loosened tie.

We also don't hold against him using bright colours - it's just a prejudice that some colours are not for men. Futhermore I personally find him wearing pink shirt sweet as it's Usagi's colour.

Besides, Mamoru is so handsome he would look fine even in a dish rag.

He has no fashion sense

His clothes are not so bad - besides he's a nerd, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to fashion.
But he doean't look as bad as some people think. His formal suits are ok - both black and white one. He looks also alright in casual t-shirts with jeans - or the white shirt with brown jacket (no wonder Yumeni Yumeno chose him as her model!). His semi-formal look is also good - especially with rolled up sleeves or loosened tie.

We also don't hold against him using bright colours - it's just a prejudice that some colours are not for men. Fortunately he doesn't mix bright colours like pink and orange for example. Futhermore I personally find him wearing pink shirt sweet as it's Usagi's colour.

His most known look with green jacket is also not as bad as it's stated - though maybe indeed he wears it too often. It also looks better with jacket taken off.
Besides, Mamoru is so handsome he would look fine even in a dish rag.

He has no fashion sense

His clothes are not so bad - besides he's a nerd, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to fashion.
But he doesn't look as bad as some people think. His formal suits are ok - both black and white one. He looks also alright in casual t-shirts with jeans - or the white shirt with brown jacket (no wonder Yumeni Yumeno chose him as her model!). His semi-formal look is also good - especially with rolled up sleeves or loosened tie.

We also don't hold against him using bright colours - it's just a prejudice that some colours are not for men. Fortunately he doesn't mix bright colours like pink and orange for example. Futhermore I personally find him wearing pink shirt sweet as it's Usagi's colour.

His most known look with green jacket is also not as bad as it's stated - though maybe indeed he wears it too often. It also looks better with jacket taken off.

His other often mocked item is the green "earth" top. While it may be a little childish, I like that it has the name of his planet.

His clothes also don't seem to belong to boring, stuffy guy as he is often described.

Besides, Mamoru is so handsome he would look fine even in a dish rag.

No to chyba osiągnęłam ostateczną wersję. Przepraszam, że tak nawrzucałam, ale po pierwszej utracie wolałam na zimne dmuchać...

To teraz krytykujcie - zwłaszcza z ostatnią linijką przegięłam ;)

Ależ wcale nie przegięłaś. Pamiętaj tylko, że ja jestem napaloną fanką więc mogę się mylić xD To co wrzucamy już to wszystko na tumblura ?? :)

A pamiętasz jaki był numer odcinka z tym Seyią co stalkera odgrywał? Chciałabym to zobaczyć jeszcze raz ;)
W końcu Chibi Chibi była Usagi z przyszłości, więc wiedziała co dla niej dobre ;)
Mnie czarodziejki nie wkurzały, przyznałam im trochę racji, że za bardzo pofolgowała Seyii, że aż zaprosiła go do domu... ale za to Ami troszkę przegięła z tą nieczystością. Trzeba je też zrozumieć. One uwielbiały Mamoru, wszędzie je zabierał, pomagał i doradzał i fakt, że może wskoczyć ktoś na jego miejsce wywoływało powszechny sprzeciw, zwłaszcza Rei miała największe powody bo odpuściła specjalnie go sobie dla niej a teraz miałoby się okazać, że to wszystko na nic :(

To to się nazywa tumbil czy tumblur?

Ona nie zaprosiła Seiyi, sam się zaprosił. Wiesz, jakie ona ma łagodne serce, a Seiya to wykorzystywał, udając, że chce jej pomóc.
Trochę to krucho na moje z tą przyjaźnią, jeśli dziewczyny myślały, że ona poleci na pierwszego, który się nawinie przy nieobecności Mamoru. Zwłaszcza że same jej początkowo narzucały obecność Seiyi. A później on zauważył, że jest podobna do Kakuyuu i włączyła mu się konkurencja...
Mam żal o to do dziewczyn. Zwłaszcza Rei, jak przyszła się czepiać Usagi...

Odcinek z Seiyą-stalkerem to m.in. ;) chyba 193 - na pewno w tytule było pojawienie się Księżniczki Kauyuu (ale tytuły anime spoilerowe były ;)))

Tak, ja bym już była za wklejaniem. Może by jeszcze napisać, że krytykowanie postaci za ubrania jest niskie? Czy to nazbyt obraźliwe? ;)

Może jeszcze jakieś podsumowanko:
In short, we would like to say that we appreciate Mamoru greatly, both as a person and character and we are astonished by all the hatred he gets. He is great guy and great boyfriend and will be great husband, great king and great father.

Już napisałam w jednym punkcie, że nielubienie jednej postaci za to, że jest mniej przystojna od drugiej postaci, jest infantylne, więc... ;)
Może wypadałoby napisać coś: in the end it's somehow understandable that you can laugh due to a character's clothes, but disliking this character for that or using this as an argument against such person is very childish.

To dodaj i może już wklejmy :)

To będzie wiekopomna chwila :D Podajcie linka ;)

Więc obrona prezentuje się tak:

This defense was written by me, Neoma and kiara_94 from Filmweb (a movie online database, something like Polish equivalent of IMDB).

Irritating

But does it mean that he is irritating for the audience or for people around him?

Because obviously different viewers find various characters irritating and Mamoru is no exception. However, he isn't generally regarded as irritating by the people who know him - Usagi at the beginning may be an exception, but it's because he for some reason teases her in special way. Mamoru may be not very sociable, but still many people like him.

Boring

It's similar situation as in previous case - different strokes for different people, who find different characters boring or interesting. It's matter of personal taste.

And again, most people aren't bored in Mamoru's company. Can a man with such a variety of books be boring?

His attacks are pretty weak

Effectiveness of the attacks is more important than their strength. Tuxedo Kamen’s attacks, despite being not so impressively looking as for example Uranus and Neptune’s attacks, were often saving Sailor Soldiers’ life and distracting their enemies. These roses are versatile, because they can be used as attack, defence, distraction - they can also break through barriers or create shield.

Besides that, with his rose attack he was able to heavily wound Queen Beryl and Kisenian Flower, and also to cause Tellu’s death - except Sailor Moon and Sailor Saturn nobody else has achieved more in defeating major enemies in the entire show.

Moreover, Sailor Mercury’s attack at the beginning also wasn’t impressive and Seiya also used a rose once in order to save Sailor Moon, but they aren’t bashed for that. In their cases fans are able to see that these attacks were simply useful, so why they can’t do it in Mamoru’s case?

Gives stupid speeches at the beginning

Heh, Sailor Moon and other Sailor Senshi also give often “stupid speeches” before almost every battle, but they aren’t bashed for that (for me they’re sometimes really stupid – like the one about destroying Soldiers’ clothes by Kunzite shortly before Usagi killed him). Mamoru’s speeches are supposed to be romantic and calming, and in my opinion their function is fulfilled, although I have to admit that sometimes they sound funny (for example in S movie) and even Usagi states once that she doesn’t have any idea what’s he talking about. Besides, coming up with new speech on every occasion requires creativity and fantasy - isn't it much better than saying always the same as Starlights or Outers?

Stays in the way of Seiya/Usagi

Well, no. It's Usagi's feelings which get in the way of Seiya/Usagi - subtle difference. Usagi has made it repeatedly clear that she loves Mamoru and Seiya's just a friend, despite Mamoru's absence and total lack of communication from him, while she spent much time with Seiya, who courted her and helped her. She doesn’t treat Seiya as possible lover even shortly after defeating of Galaxia, when she thinks that Mamoru is dead and will never come back to life. Yet no spark appeared and Usagi's heart remained solely with Mamoru. Seiya got it also at last.

If Usagi's feelings changed, Mamoru would surely let her go. Mamoru‘s love isn't possessive. When he was dying after battle with Beryl, he even said to Usagi that she should find another loving boyfriend.

Is the father of Chibiusa (who is also a hated character)

So if Mamoru wouldn’t exist, there would be no Chibiusa too, right? Well, this child can be annoying, but she also has some sweet moments (for example in the SuperS season she tells Kamoi that Usagi is a role model for her). Besides that, without her Hotaru wouldn’t have any friends and she could not find any strength to defeat Mistress 9, Helios couldn’t escape from Nehelenia’s yoke etc. Without Chibiusa defeating their enemies would be more difficult for Senshi.

Besides, Usagi is also responsible for the birth of Chibiusa, but she doesn’t get any hate for that.

Other arguments against him, which you can meet:

He's an insensitive jerk in the Classic season and at the beginning of R season

It's true that he teases Usagi, but most of the things he says to her aren't really cruel. Sometimes he's obviously right like when he speaks that looks aren't everything or that honesty requires courage.

Besides, it's quite evident that Mamoru's teasing is kind of "kindergarden courtship", as it's only focused on Usagi. Mamoru's treatment of Rei is very different. His best friend Motoki even notices that Mamoru's teasing of Usagi is unusual for him.

Usagi can sometimes be also mean to him, like when she mocks him because of riding an amusement train or when she accuses him of hurting her cat.

Yet she also - after initial annoyance with Mamoru - can be seen enjoying their bickering. Later their mutual teasing becomes almost flirty.

Besides, despite his often reserved exterior he is far from being insensitive - he jumps under the truck to save a cat, he defends Usagi's family from the monster, in spite of being ordinary human then, he devotes two days to take care of the baby, he agrees to be Yumeni's model.

Besides, if he was perfect from the beginning, we wouldn't have character development due to love between him and Usagi. And there the change in him, after they are together, is striking. He finally gets over his lonely childhood.

He's much worse than Seiya

Why? Because he’s not a star? That’s very infantile way of thinking. Or maybe he’s not as handsome as Seiya? It’s the matter of personal taste, but it’s still an infantile way of choosing characters to like/dislike.

Is Mamoru worse man than Seiya? Mamoru in almost every episode he appears helps somebody, saves somebody, gives support or advice. He retains his noble qualities even when he is brainwashed with evil energy in the first season and becomes Dark Endymion - he doesn't want to harm innocent people and actively opposes Kunzite's underhanded tactics.

This argument is given mostly by Seiya/Usagi fans, who don’t seem to notice that Usagi loves Mamoru. Besides, if you want to compare Mamoru with other Usagi’s possible lovers, why do you choose only Seiya for that, not Diamond, Ail, or even Motoki or Umino ;)? Is it because they don’t look good in your opinion, when you compare them with Mamoru?

He's cold and unloving towards Usagi

Mamoru is reserved and introverted person, which people often confuse with being cold. He also grew up without close relatives, in culture which postulates keeping distance from others and calmness.

Therefore, it's natural he's not openly affectionate man - in Tuxedo Mask's image song "Dakishimete itai" he says that he can't speak pretty words and make pretenses.

This doesn't mean he doesn't show his love not through words (though he calls her tenderly "Usako"), but actions. He protects and supports her, is always ready to give her advice or sacrifice himself. When he is seriously ill in SuperS, his only concern is burdening Usagi and even apologises to her that he can't help her. Mamoru also has no problems about taking second place to his girlfriend, which no many men would. He is extremely patient towards her, when she overreacts. And last, but not least - he is completely faithful to her, despite many people expressing interest in him.

Besides, if one pays attention to the way he looks at Usagi, the love in his eyes is evident. And, as Fisheye noticed, Mamoru smiles in a special way when he's with Usagi.

He is with Usagi only because he has to

If he was with Usagi only because he has to, he doesn't really love her and he's acting all the time, why he calls her name shortly before his death in Stars series? If this "argument" was true, that would mean that it was a very strange way of acting - why should he be doing this at this very moment? He had no "audience" there (besides Galaxia, who completely didn't care at that moment if he loves someone or not) and no purpose to act then.

He shows his affection towards Usagi also earlier, everytime when he was appearing to save her, and even when he didn't know that she's Sailor Moon. Do you remember that episode, when Mamoru still didn't get his memories back and he was babysitting with Usa? You could have felt really big chemistry between them then. When I was a kid and I was watching Sailor Moon only from time to time, I started watching this episode without knowing much about the plot and during it I was certain that they already are in the long-term relationship.

He never does anything

Mamoru has saved Usagi more times that the girls combined - and they are destinied to be her bodyguards. He is often mocked for having weaker powers than the senshi, but doesn't it make his efforts even more impressive and his bravery more admirable? He sometimes may not be able to do more than hold Usagi or cover her with his body, but still does everything that is in his power. For example, remember the birthday episode, when he volunteers to distract Kaorinite, so as to let girls combine their powers in joint attack? Mamoru also has shown a great ability for quick thinking and flexibility in battle.

His Usagi-oriented-GPS is also valuable. Without him, she would be defeated very early.

Besides, people often forget that not only fighting is important. Mamoru's greatest power is perhaps supporting others and motivating them. As he does with Helios in SuperS final, giving him strength to save senshi.

He also helps by gathering information and negotiating with Outer senshi.

He's often outside the final battle

The final battles belong to Usagi, as, you know, the main character and the strongest senshi. Only Chibiusa in R and SuperS, and Hotaru in S took active part, other senshi have supporting role.

Futhermore, even though Mamoru is not present at the battle with Nehellenia in SuperS, he still influences the outcome by talking to Helios in Elysion and motivating him to act.

He often gets kidnapped

Not as often as it's believed. In most cases he gets captured because he wants to save Usagi. The exception would be Nehellenia, who captured the person Usagi loves the most to exact revenge on the White Moon Princess.

Other characters are often kidnapped too (i.e. Sailor senshi by Rubeus and Nehellenia, Usagi by Prince Diamond), especially Chibiusa.

He never makes anything to amuse Usagi

Remember the episode at the beginning of S season when Usagi couldn't transform and she went to Mamoru for support? He had an idea to take her to kittens. which brightened her up.

In the end of S movie he takes Artemis to Luna at the airport, because he knows how Usagi is concerned about her. And they all go on cute double-date.

He also takes Usagi with friends everywhere - to race, to aquarium, to university party.

Futhermore, his appreciation for Usagi's friendships and including them is another argument for his being the exceptional man.

He gets killed at the beginning of Stars arc

Well, that was definitely not his fault. At least he tried to fight Galaxia before his death, while Inners didn't do anything to harm/heal her before their deaths at the beginning of the final battle. Anyway, they don't get any hate due to this fact, while Mamoru is hated just as he would want to be killed.

Besides, Mamoru had to be the first to die, as he's Earth guardian, so Galaxia had to take his Star Seed to operate there.

He left to the USA, knowing that Usagi will miss him

Somehow it's being forgotten that Mamoru would miss her too - rememeber that he kept looking at their photograph, when Galaxia attacked his plane.

Mamoru's situation was even much harder than Usagi's - she stayed with all her friends, while he left the person most dear to him.

Mamoru is also obviously conflicted about this separation and anxious about Usagi's feelings, but he is a man, who would put a duty above a personal pleasure.

The intended message of this plot was that such separation doesn't conquer the true love, earlier presented with Reika and Motoki.

Amd finally, at the end of Stars Mamoru doesn't seem to be going anywhere...

He likes Chibiusa more than Usagi

When in the final of R both Usagi and Chibiusa are unconscious because of using Silver Crystals, it's Usagi Mamoru holds in his arms and tries to awaken.

Besides, Chibiusa is the result of love between Mamoru and Usagi. Caring about her is partly also act of Mamoru's love for Usagi, who has already great responsibility on her.

He broke up with Usagi in R season only because he had a stupid dream

Not "a stupid dream", but a series of dreams when he saw his beloved dying. Remember also that Mamoru has already experienced the dream which was true - the one about the pirncess and Silver Crystal. So he had a valid reason to believe it.

It's true that he was really cold to her during that period, but he sincerely believed that it would be easier for her to hate him.

Besides, this breakup really proves that the argument of his having to be with her is invalid. Then, instead of feeling relieved he clearly misses her and is miserable the whole time. He still calls her: "Usako", can't take their photograph off his nightstand and sees her face in the stream. He even cries.

He's not funny at all

Mamoru is generally mature, serious and reserved person. As we previously mentioned, it's also partially conditioned by his upbringing and Japanese culture. So it's understandable he may not be openly funny, the way Usagi is, for instance. But this by no means is the same as saying that he is no funny at all. There are many scenes, when he is hillarious - like in the dentist scene, when he composes his apologetic speech to Usagi. He also often makes funny faces, especially during Usagi and Chibiusa's argument (like when they went to tea-house).

He generally is considerably less reserved and not so serious when he is with Usagi, though before her we also can see glimpses, like when she and Rei catch him on children train in amusement park in first season.

And who could forget such gems like: "Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year" from S movie or "Hasn't that cat been talking?"

He has no fashion sense

His clothes are not so bad - besides he's a nerd, so he probably doesn't pay much attention to fashion.

But he doesn't look as bad as some people think. His formal suits are ok - both black and white one. He looks also alright in casual t-shirts with jeans - or the white shirt with brown jacket (no wonder Yumeni Yumeno chose him as her model!). His semi-formal look is also good - especially with rolled up sleeves or loosened tie.

We also don't hold against him using bright colours - it's just a prejudice that some colours are not for men. Fortunately he doesn't mix bright colours like pink and orange for example. Futhermore I personally find him wearing pink shirt sweet as it's Usagi's colour.

His most known look with green jacket is also not as bad as it's stated - though maybe indeed he wears it too often. It also looks better with jacket taken off.

His other often mocked item is the green "earth" top. While it may be a little childish, I like that it has the name of his planet.

His clothes also don't seem to belong to boring, stuffy guy as he is often described.

Besides, Mamoru is In my opinion so handsome he would look fine even in a dish rag.

In the end it's somehow understandable that you can laugh due to a character's clothes, but disliking this character for that or using this as an argument against such person is very childish.

In short, we would like to say that we appreciate Mamoru greatly, both as a person and character and we are astonished by all the hatred he gets. He is great guy and great boyfriend and will be great husband, great king and great father.

W którym miejscu powklejać zdjęcia?

Zdjęcia - chyba w ostatnim podpunkcie...

A da się jakoś pogrubić podpunkty?

Piękne... wzruszyłam się ;) Ale ja tego nie napisałam :) Napiszcie, że tylko fotki zrobiłam ;)
Wydaje mi się, że fotki najlepiej między tekstami wklejać, tak po każdym punkcie... będzie wyglądało ciekawiej i widowiskowo :D
Czy tak się da?
<b>Sailor Moon</b>

Tak, da się.

Co do zdjęć - niestety leżę we wklejaniu ich na tumblra, ale może jak dam linka do tych zdjęć adminowi/admince i ładnie poproszę, to się zmiłuje? ^^;

I może napisy pod tymi obrazkami mniejszą czcionką np. "His elegant salmon-pink shirt" nie wiem...

To może wygrub, żeby było czytelniejsze?
I daj linka- a może po prostu przyklej w poście linka? Da się?

Zrobię tak ;)

Z tego, co pamiętam, na tumblrze nie da się spokojnie dawać linków, po których kliknięciu przechodzi się do linkowanej strony...

Poza tym znalazłam taki punkt regulaminu:
"Be careful about hotlinking pictures. The easiest thing to do is to just download the picture and upload it to tumblr. If you want to be credited, then put your tumblr url in the submission."
Jak jednak już wspominałam, obrazki w tumblrze to dla mnie czarna magia...

No co ty, Kiara, przecież współpracowałaś :) Nie będziemy sobie udziału procentowo wydzielać, jesteśmy jak trzej muszkieterowie albo trzy gracje, co wolicie ;)

Trzy Sailorki ;> - połączenie muszkieterów z gracjami ;)

Ale trzy sailorki to tylko Starlights by byly, a ja nie przepadam za czarną skórą ;)

Jesteśmy Sailorkami ale jeszcze nieskompletowanymi :D Ja mogę być Sailor Jupiter albo Sailor Pluto xD A wy kim chcecie być?? :)
Ze zdjęciami to tak się wkleja :
Na tej stronce co podałam naciskacie na zdjęcie i po prawej stronie jest taka ramka "Image Links" kopiujecie do tekstu link z IMG code i powinno działać np. [IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/zebra124/Mamoru%20style/60.jpg[/IM G]

Tylko wybierzmy może po jednym ubranku z każdej kreacji ;)

Ja mogę być Saturn ;>

Co do zdjęć, to może po prostu powklejam je po miejscach, w których zostały wspomniane? (okazało się, że to wcale taka czarna magia nie jest ^^;).

Ja mogę być Usagi, Ami albo Chibi-Chibi :)

Ok, tak może być ;) Sailor Saturn miała najlepszą broń - Kosę Ciszy :) Widzę Neoma, że uwielbiasz Chibi Chibi xD

Hej a pamiętacie może, jaki jest numer odcinka w którym Rei opieprza Usagi o to, że spotyka się z Seyią? Po rysunkach na stronce z opisami odcinków nie mogę po tym dojść :(

To nie był przypadkiem odcinek 195?

A, jeszcze propo obrony: już ją przesłałam, teraz czeka na zatwierdzenie.

Zaakceptowane :)
http://fyeahcontroversialcharacters.tumblr.com/post/35437776394/defense-of-mamor u-chiba-tuxedo-kamen-from-sailor-moon

Jacie jakie to piękne :) I zostawiłyśmy po sobie ślad w internecie dla potomnych :D Już parę osób zaznaczyło, że to lubi ;)

Dla mnie ważniejsze od samego lubienia jest reblogowanie, dlatego się cieszę, że kilka osób już to zreblogowało ;)

W takim razie co robimy po wypełnieniu tej misji? Bierzemy się za obronę pairingu Mamoru/Usagi? ;)

Jasne, że się zabieramy :)

Tak, 195 - ale Rei nie tyle ją ochrzaniała za spotykanie się z Seiyą, co za granie na dwóch fortepianach :)

Gladka, czyli ty jesteś thegladka ;)

To już ściągam odcinek 195 dziękuję wam ;)
Granie na dwóch fortepianach... metaforycznie powiedziane :)
Widzę Sailorki, że nie mamy chwili wytchnienia, kolejna misja uratowania świataxD Może jeszcze potem weźmiemy się za Nephrite i Naru, Yuuichiro i Rei, Petz i Saphiro (chociaż tutaj trzeba by dotworzyć sytuacje jak nagrodziła się jej miłość bo za dużo o tym nie wiemy)

Ale chyba te pary nie są jakoś specjalnie znienawidzone? Chyba tylko mangowi puryści czepiają się, że nie są to pary kanoniczne...

A właśnie - czy coś wcześniej było między Petz i Szsfirem? Bo mnie się zdaje, że to było tylko z jej strony, a on się nią zainteresowała dopiero, jak została człowiekiem.

Super. że Mamorek trafia pod strzechy - ale szkoda, że tak mało osób go rebloguje. Krytykęreblogowało więcej. I szkoda, że aż pół roku Mamorek musiał czekać na obronę..

Na szczęścia Mamorcio ma nas :) Jego zagorzałe obrończynie. Obejrzałam ten odcinek 195 i Rei nieźle jej nagadała, ale w sumie na dobre to wyszło, bo przynajmniej Sailorki się dowiedziały, że Mamoru nie dostaje znaku życia. Zresztą gdyby żył Mamorek na pewno napisałby też do dziewczyn ;)
Rozwala mnie jednak fakt, że Ami od razu rozwiązała sprawę - zadzwoniła na uczelnie i wszystkiego się od razu dowiedziała a Usa wszystko to w sobie tłumiła. Dlaczego ona nie zadzwoniła na tą uczelnię ?! :-/

Hej znalazłam coś ekstra na tumblurze jak się Mamoru cieszy :)
http://ibelieveinitmiracleromance.tumblr.com/post/28509682708/cutest-couple-ever -look-at-his-face Naprawdę to jest Miracle Romance i najpiękniejsza para na świecie :D
I jeszcze to http://flamboyant-heretic.tumblr.com/post/28196765340/usagi-what-would-your-fath er-have-to-say-about hehe ;) tata Usagi powinien się naprawdę częsciej pojawiać
i tutaj http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/mamoru-loves-cats

Wydaje mi się, że między Petz i Saphriro coś już tam kiełkowało wcześniej. W sensie Petz była w nim zakochana, spotykali się razem, ale Saphiro nie traktował jej jako swojej ukochanej lecz znajomą na którą często "wpada". :) Po ich rozmowie widać, że wcześniej już często ze sobą rozmawiali. :D

Rozmawiali, ale ja miałam wrażenie, że on się wcześniej ną nie interesował, bo coś mówił, że się zmieniła. (Szafir umiera - kolejny spoilerowy tytuł :) U nas tylko "Szafir" był).

Pamiętajmy. że Usagi nie zna angielskiego - patrz odc. 108 :), więc nie poradziłaby sobie z telefonem na uczelnię. Poza tym ona często pisała, więc uznała, że Mamoru nie pisze, bo nie może. Nie chciała się narzucać.

Podlinkowałam nas :)
Tylko szkoda, że nie dałyśmy tego w szlafroku, bo to argument nie do pobicia :)

Mamoru naprawdę się ucieszył, że Usagi przyszła, Zwłaszcza że nie było Różowej, więc okazja do dorosłej rozmowy się pojawiła :) Że też Usagi czepiała się o Różową, zamiast to wykorzystać :(

Mamoru z kotkiem i Mamoru z dziećmi to cudowny widok :) Jest wart swojej wagi w złocie ;)

Brak mi było interakcji Mamoru z ojcem Usagi... Tak jak brakło mi reakcji Motokiego na wieść o Usagi/Mamoru ;)

Ooo faktycznie reakcja Motokiego na to, że Usagi z Mamoru są razem byłaby powalająca ;) zwłaszcza, że sam uważał, że są dla niego za młode i traktuje je jak młodsze siostry xD

No tak szkoda, że nie ma szlafroka i tej zielonej podkoszulki z bokserkami :D

Faktycznie te tytuły są strasznie spojlerowe i troszkę niszczą element zaskoczenia co jest niefajne :(
Faktycznie Szafir tak powiedział a to oznacza, że zaczął coś czuć do Petz. Miał trochę racji, Petz się trochę uczłowieczyła i stała się dobra :)
Usagi mogła wziąść słownik albo jakieś inne pomoce naukowe i napisać sobie na kartce co ma powiedzieć a potem to po prostu powiedzieć ;) albo poprosić o pomoc Ami, tylko że ona nie chciała tego nikomu mówić :(

"Jest wart swojej wagi w złocie ;)" i w diamentach również ;)

W sumie ciekawe dlaczego różowa cholera kręciła się przez 3 sezony na okrągło a wtedy kiedy przydałaby się to sobie najzwyczajniej w świecie wróciła do swoich czasów. Co za wredota ;) W piątym sezonie byłaby bardzo pomocna Usagi :)

A czemu byłaby pomocna?
W mandze Stars było jej dużo więcej, nawet wrednie wraca...

Pocieszałaby Usagi, mówiłaby, że Mamoru na pewno wkrótce odpisze, albo sama wzięłaby sprawę w swoje ręcę i coś wymyśliła, bo wraźlata to ona zawsze była :)
A kiedy w mandze wraca?

Myślę, że twórcy anime zrozumieli, że w SuperS było jej za dużo, więc pozbawili nas tego szczęscia w Starsach :)

Tytuły są spoilerowe - jak i zapowiedzi na początku i końcu odcinków.

W sumie- czemu nie chciała?

Czyli jakie punkty opracowujemy?

Chyba musimy na pewno destiny i pedofilię ;)

Tak, jestem thegladka (teraz możecie obserwować mój śmietnik na tumblrze XD).

A co do obrony Mamoru/Usagi, to skupmy się także na tym, co napisałam wtedy w submisie:

Mamoru isn’t as cool, sweet, charming and handsome as Seiya Kou, who is the ideal of male despite being really a female and is the one who should be with Usagi;

after two first seasons Mamoru-Usagi relations became boring;

this relationship gave birth to Chibiusa, who is an annoying character.

No tak z pedofilią będzie ciężko, nawet tata Usagi się tym oburzał. Możemy napisać, że w Japonii to popularne (Nephrite - Naru też tak mieli, Rei w "Wspomnieniach z Casablanki) albo że miłość kpi sobie z wieku i czasu ;)
Możemy też zaznaczyć, że są przeciwieństwami, które się uzupełniają, czuć od nich chemię na kilometr zwłaszcza w okresie ich "godów"xD Tylko w swojej obecności czują się w pełni szczęśliwi (to najbardziej po Mamoru widać, który w towarzystwie Rei był mega znudzony, od Beryl uciekał jak diabeł od święconej wody a w towarzystwie Motokiego był zbyt podważny i się nie uśmiechał.)

Wiesz, ale ja bym jeszcze koniecznie to destiny wsadziła, bo wszyscy się tak o to rzucają... Nie wiem, czy oni widzą przeznaczenie jako jakąś wredną swatkę, która sczepia łańcchami biedne ofiary... ;)