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Czarodziejka z Księżyca

Bishōjo Senshi Sailor Moon Sailor Stars
1996 - 1997
7,7 13 tys. ocen
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Czarodziejka z Księżyca
powrót do forum serialu Czarodziejka z Księżyca

Kiara, Neoma, Gladka

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odezwijcie się. Muszę wam coś pokazać

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Neoma

Dzięki dziewczyny. Też mam taką nadzieję. Teraz pozostaje mi tylko czekać na wiadomość od nich.

ocenił(a) serial na 9

Ojej Miśka nie wiedziałam, że ty jesteś za granicą. Strasznie wredni ci pracodawcy, traktują pracowników jak roboty. Wydaje mi się, że to powinnaś wrócić do Polski i kurs angielskiego jak najbardziej :) fajnie zrobić coś dla siebie i nie patrzeć na opinie innych ludzi. A więc mamy tak samo z Itazura na Kiss, to anime to czysta reklama pielęgniarstwa :D Jednak pielęgniarki w Polsce nie są tak poważane jak w Japoni i słabo zarabiają, ale przynajmniej pracy dla nich nie brakuje... Gładka to bardzo ładnie powiedziane ""Znajdź sobie zawód, który lubisz, a nie spędzisz w pracy ani jednego dnia" - i moim zdaniem tego należy się trzymać". Gdybym tak jeszcze rozumiała informatykę to byłoby spoko. Ale Gladka nie chciałaś iść na polonistykę? Dziękuję wam dziewczyny :) jeszcze nie wiem co wybiorę, ale wlałyście otuchę w moje serce :D W każdym razie poszukam jakiegoś anime z kobietą inżynierem w roli głównej.

kiara_94

Ujmę to w ten sposób: wtedy myślałam, że polonistyka to dobry wybór. Ale teraz widzę, że trzeba było zaryzykować i iść na filmoznawstwo.

I proszę bardzo ;)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

Dzisiaj zdrowo pobroniłam Mamorka.
Jest sens wdawać się w przepychanki z sziperami Seiya/Usagi? I tłumaczyć, co jest nie tak w zachowaniu Seiyi?

Dwie osoby mnie obserwują! Ratunku...

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

Their love was responsible for Beryl turning evil and destroyed their two planets
Actually, Serenity and Endymion cannot be hold responsible for Moon people's prejudice and Earth people envy, which were sources of the confict. Endymion and Serenity were the only individuals capable of rising above that.

And being rejected is not an excuse for summoning evil being, spread hate and start war.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

Their love was responsible for Beryl turning evil and destroyed their two planets
Actually, Serenity and Endymion cannot be held responsible for Moon people's prejudice and Earth people envy, which were sources of the confict. Endymion and Serenity were the only individuals capable of rising above that.

And being rejected is hardly an excuse for summoning evil being, spread hate and start war.

Neoma

Thumb up ;)

"Dwie osoby mnie obserwują! Ratunku..."
"Ratunku" w sensie, że tak mało, czy że aż dwie osoby? ;)

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Gladka

Hej Neoma twój blog na tumblurze wymiata, wybierasz same perełki i jest co poczytać o naszym Mamorku :) tylko powiedz mi o co chodzi z tym komiksem z chorą Usagi i Mamoru oraz wraźlatą Dianą? To jest jakaś twórczość fanowska bazująca na jakiejś scenie z mangi? Trochę mnie to rozwaliło (w sensie ta gorączka Mamoru) :D No i ja też obserwuję twojego bloga :)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Tak wiem, ty i Gladka, ale są jeszcze dwie nowe nieznane osoby...

To nie scena z mangi, a z anime 146 (tam w komentarzach chyba ktoś napisał), jak Diana opowiada Lunie, że król i królowa zawsze są chorzy podczas ceremonii. A Luna, w szoku, "Król też?" :)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

Mamoru isn’t as cool, sweet, charming and handsome as Seiya Kou, who is the ideal of male despite being really a female and is the one who should be with Usagi;

The Usagi/Seiya pairing was never an option in the series - it was clear for the whole time, who will be the final match for Usagi ("miracle romance" was pretty solid foreshadowing). We actually even got to see their future in R season.

As for who of presented candidates would be better - despite Seiya's (in)famous line "Am I not good enogh?" it was never a competition with Usagi as a prize for the one, who was proved to be better. It was about Usagi's choice and her feelings, which wholly belonged to Mamoru and only to Mamoru. When he is absent in Stars and does not communicate with her, Usagi still believes in their love, writes to him often about everything and even destroys school property by drawing them together.

This argument is strongly connected with an another one, not listed in the submission - that Mamoru doesn't deserve Usagi

Mamoru loves Usagi despite everything, despite all her flaws. He never gets angry at her, when she spilled cookies in his apartament, when she got drunk at the party or when she slapped him in public. In fact, after that he talks with his ex about what he did wrong and runs to her with gift. He also eats what she cooks, including burnt cookies and peppers he dislikes and spends all his money to buy her a designer dress.
How all this should make him unworthy?
Or is it just because he lacks her magical powers? But this should not be the measure of person's worthiness.

after two first seasons Mamoru-Usagi relations became boring;
Not so much boring, but stable and solid. They were in courtship stage in first season, later they lost each other, then Mamoru forgot everything - and when they finally got together, these morbid visions appeared and break-up ensued.
In third season they are finally together, in very long-term relationship and, except of Usagi's occasional fits of jealousy, they have no problems.
This may seem boring for some viewers, but I am personally glad they were able to catch a break after all these trials and simply be allowed to be happily together. They support each other and can share everything, as Mamoru says to Chibiusa.
It's true that their initial banter was cute and their emotions during break-up intense. It was, however, great to see more of their ordinary, everyday interactions. It was quite innovative take for a Prince and Princess story, which is normally ended with them getting together and that's end, happily ever after. Usagi declaring that Mamoru is her Prince after he offers her a ride when she's after he offers her a ride when she's carrying shopping bags is the cutest.

this relationship gave birth to Chibiusa, who is an annoying character.
Well, Chibiusa can be annoying, but she has some nice moments and she develops as a person.
Besides, thanks to her they really become great parents.
Other arguments against this pairing, which you can meet:

They are together just because of destiny
It's baffling how people imagine it working - is destiny a cruel matchmaker, putting reluctant people together despite their inclinations?

It is often said that they loathed each other for the whole time, without know knowing about their past. Actually. there is clear attraction between Usagi and Mamoru for some time, before the revelation. They get jealous about each other, find each other attractive and care about each other's opinion. They also start actively seeking each other's company. Mamoru shares with her his past and risks his life to save her. The fact that it took them a little time to fall in love also indicates that not only fate brought them together.
.
And also at the beginning of the R season Mamoru doesn't rememeber anything, but he still still is drawn to her.

The break-up storyline also shows, how much they both want to be together, even when they believe they are not supposed to be together. Futhermore, it proves that destiny wouldn't be able to force them together against their will, as they are broken up for some time..

The ultimate proof of their not being tied by fate is the moment in Stars when Usagi recognises Mamoru's star seed, among millions of other star seeds.

They are completely incompatible
Who should decide whether two people are compatible or not, when they are obviously very happy together, as they declared many times?

Usagi and Mamoru share ideals, values and principles, which is the most important point of compatibility. They may have different tempers, but I'd argue that it is what attracts them to each other and creates sparks in their relations. It also helps them both grow as persons, as Mamoru becomes more open and kind and Usagi matures.

The age gap between them is too big
It's not so big as it is usually claimed - Mamoru at the beginning may be 17-19 - no more than 18 if R movie is to be taken under consideration. So about four years difference isn't really so problematic or unusual.

And age of consent in Japan is 13, so it's completely legal.

Their love was responsible for Beryl turning evil and destroyed their two planets
Actually, Serenity and Endymion cannot be held responsible for Moon people's prejudice and Earth people envy, which were sources of the confict. Endymion and Serenity were the only individuals capable of rising above that.

And being rejected is hardly an excuse for summoning evil being, spread hate and start war.

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Neoma

Hahah faktycznie jest taka scena :) jaka ta Diana niewinna i niedomyślna uhuhuh ;) Neoma jest w sieci więcej takich komiksów fanów??

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Mamoru isn’t as cool, sweet, charming and handsome as Seiya Kou, who is the ideal of male despite being really a female and is the one who should be with Usagi;

The Usagi/Seiya pairing was never an option in the series - it was clear for the whole time, who will be the final match for Usagi ("miracle romance" was pretty solid foreshadowing). We actually even got to see their future in R season.

As for who of presented candidates would be better - despite Seiya's (in)famous line "Am I not good enogh?" it was never a competition with Usagi as a prize for the one, who was proved to be better. It was about Usagi's choice and her feelings, which wholly belonged to Mamoru and only to Mamoru. When he is absent in Stars and does not communicate with her, Usagi still believes in their love, writes to him often about everything and even destroys school property by drawing them together.

This argument is strongly connected with an another one, not listed in the submission - that Mamoru doesn't deserve Usagi

Mamoru loves Usagi despite everything, despite all her flaws. He never gets angry at her, when she spilled cookies in his apartament, when she got drunk at the party or when she slapped him in public. In fact, after that he talks with his ex about what he did wrong and runs to her with gift. He also eats what she cooks, including burnt cookies and peppers he dislikes and spends all his money to buy her a designer dress.
How all this should make him unworthy?
Or is it just because he lacks her magical powers? But this should not be the measure of person's worthiness.

after two first seasons Mamoru-Usagi relations became boring;
Not so much boring, but stable and solid. They were in courtship stage in first season, later they lost each other, then Mamoru forgot everything - and when they finally got together, these morbid visions appeared and break-up ensued.
In third season they are finally together, in very long-term relationship and, except of Usagi's occasional fits of jealousy, they have no problems.
This may seem boring for some viewers, but I am personally glad they were able to catch a break after all these trials and simply be allowed to be happily together. They support each other and can share everything, as Mamoru says to Chibiusa.
It's true that their initial banter was cute and their emotions during break-up intense. It was, however, great to see more of their ordinary, everyday interactions. It was quite innovative take for a Prince and Princess story, which is normally ended with them getting together and that's end, happily ever after. Usagi declaring that Mamoru is her Prince after he offers her a ride when she's after he offers her a ride when she's carrying shopping bags is the cutest.

this relationship gave birth to Chibiusa, who is an annoying character.
Well, Chibiusa can be annoying, but she has some nice moments and she develops as a person.
Besides, thanks to her they really become great parents.
Other arguments against this pairing, which you can meet:

They are together just because of destiny
It's baffling how people imagine it working - is destiny a cruel matchmaker, putting reluctant people together despite their inclinations?

It is often said that they loathed each other for the whole time, without know knowing about their past. Actually. there is clear attraction between Usagi and Mamoru for some time, before the revelation. They get jealous about each other, find each other attractive and care about each other's opinion. They also start actively seeking each other's company. Mamoru shares with her his past and risks his life to save her. The fact that it took them a little time to fall in love also indicates that not only fate brought them together.
.
And also at the beginning of the R season Mamoru doesn't rememeber anything, but he still still is drawn to her.

The break-up storyline also shows, how much they both want to be together, even when they believe they are not supposed to be together. Futhermore, it proves that destiny wouldn't be able to force them together against their will, as they are broken up for some time..

The ultimate proof of their not being tied by fate is the moment in Stars when Usagi recognises Mamoru's star seed, among millions of other star seeds.

They are completely incompatible
Who should decide whether two people are compatible or not, when they are obviously very happy together, as they declared many times?

Usagi and Mamoru share ideals, values and principles, which is the most important point of compatibility. They may have different tempers, but I'd argue that it is what attracts them to each other and creates sparks in their relations. It also helps them both grow as persons, as Mamoru becomes more open and kind and Usagi matures.

The age gap between them is too big
It's not so big as it is usually claimed - Mamoru at the beginning may be 17-19 - no more than 18 if R movie is to be taken under consideration. So about four years difference isn't really so problematic or unusual.

And age of consent in Japan is 13, so it's completely legal.

Their love was responsible for Beryl turning evil and destroyed their two planets
Actually, Serenity and Endymion cannot be held responsible for Moon people's prejudice and Earth people envy, which were sources of the confict. Endymion and Serenity were the only individuals capable of rising above that.

And being rejected is hardly an excuse for summoning evil being, spreading hate and starting war.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

Gladka, wkleiłabyś to? Bo mi nie wychodzi wklejanie obrazków :(

Neoma

Hm, a jakie obrazki chciałabyś wkleić?

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

Tutaj kiara przygotowała zdjęcia:
http://s649.beta.photobucket.com/user/zebra124/library/Usagi%20Mamoru?
http://s649.beta.photobucket.com/user/zebra124/media/Mamoru%20style/49.jpg.html? sort=3&o=11#/user/zebra124/media/Mamoru%20style/49.jpg.html?sort=3&o=11&_suid=13 59919296546049451184946755305 I to, bo mówią, że nie jest przystojny jak Seiya?

Kiara, nowy komiks dla ciebie: http://idesofnovember.tumblr.com/post/40838721984/curry-night

Neoma

Czyli wykorzystujemy wszystkie, tak?
W takim razie trochę czasu mi to zajmie, ale pewnie wkleję :)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

Hurra, hurra, hurra.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

Mnie się pojawiał czerwony krzyżyk?

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Neoma

Hahah kolejny komiks ;) coś Mamorek jest strasznie rozbrykany na tych komiksach. W anime nie gotował razem z Usagi "dania miłości" xD
Hej Miśka a co słychać w pracy? Wredni pracodawcy nadal się rzucają? :(

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kiara_94

Jeszcze nic nie wiem. Czekam cały czas na telefon od nich.

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No i zajebiście. Nie wracam do roboty:/ Powiedzieli, że nie mogą ot tak wyrzucić tej dziewczyny, która jest na moje miejsce i mam czekać, aż będą potrzebowali ludzi. Czyli k* tydzień, miesiąc, nie wiadomo ile;/ a pół roku czekałam na tą robotę;(

ocenił(a) serial na 9

No to smutne :( może poszukaj innej pracy? Rozumiem, że nie jest łatwo szukać roboty, ale to lepiej niż czekać...

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Miśka, ale oni tak mogą, jak to u nich się stało? :(

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Neoma

Kiara nie tak łatwo jest z robotą tutaj. Pół roku minęło zanim się znalazła. Teraz poczekam trochę, jak nic się nie ruszy, to będę musiała coś innego znaleźć.
Neoma nie wiem czy mogą, czy nie, ale to zrobili. Na pewno tak tego nie zostawię.

ocenił(a) serial na 9

Właśnie coś tutaj śmierdzi pogwałceniem praw pracowników. Kobietę po urlopie macierzyńskim nie wolno wyrzucić to tym bardziej na wskutek zranienia przy pracy :/ Do sądu z nimi...

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kiara_94

Hoho ale to zabrzmiało:D widać tutaj to inaczej się odbywa. Na razie poczekam. Mam ciuchutką nadzieję, że w końcu coś się ruszy.

ocenił(a) serial na 8

MIśka, może na razie bez sądu ;) Ale nie odpuszczaj....

Gladka, masz problemy z wklejeniem? :(

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Neoma

No i dobrze co oni sobie myślą ?! Już ja bym tam im napisała żeby im w pięty poszło xD Neoma, żeby to wkleić wystarczy chyba skopiować linka IMG który jest obok obrazka ;) ale nie jestem pewna czy zadziała ale spróbuj :)

kiara_94

Nie tyle z wklejaniem, co pamiętaniem o tym, żeby to zrobić... :( Przepraszam.

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

A podobno mają wkrótce być niusy o nowym (nowej?) anime :)

Neoma

No właśnie słyszałam o tym... z tym że "może" się pojawią XD

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Gladka

Dajcie znać jak się czegoś dowiecie:)

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Dziewczyny w poniedziałek wracam do pracy! Juhuuu:D

ocenił(a) serial na 9

To wspaniale! Dwie dobre wiadomości słyszymy i o tobie i o nowych newsach z Sailorkami ;)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Gratulacje, MIska :) A co im zrobiłaś? ;)

Gladka, nie udało ci się wkleić? :(

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Neoma

A tak ogólnie, jak według was powinno się tłumaczyć: Mamo- chan i Usako na nasze?

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Neoma

Marek i Urszula?? Ale to jakoś do nich nie pasuje ;) Wolę wersję japońską :)

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Marek i Urszula, to jak w Brzyduli polskiej :) Hehe.
Mi raczej chodziło o to, żeby zostawić "Usagi" i "Mamoru", ale zdrobnić po polsku - czy jak w mandze Króliczek i Mamorek/Mamoruś?

ocenił(a) serial na 9
Neoma

O boshes faktycznie, to było niezamierzone ;) Jakoś nie lubiłam tego serialu :/ irytowało mnie zachowanie tej Uli...
Mamorcio Mamorek, (albo jak inni mawiają Mamrot xD) ale do Usagi jakoś nic nie pasuje, chyba że Usa :/

ocenił(a) serial na 8
kiara_94

Mamrot to chyba ma nieco perojatywne zabarwienie ;) Usa nie brzmi bardziej po polsku niż Usako....

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Neoma

Dzięki dziewczyny:) nic nie zrobiłam, czekałam cierpliwie:D ale dali mnie na drugą zmianę. Lipa trochę, nikogo tam nie znam. Znowu będę musiała zacząć od nowa. Ale ważne, że mogę wrócić:)

Przepraszam za nieobecność...

Nie mam zielonego pojęcia, jak wklejać zdjęcia z Photobucketa...

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Gladka

Jak Ci idzie oglądanie anime?:)

Na tydzień zrobiłam sobie przerwę ^^;

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

To może bez zdjęć?

Neoma

Chyba tak będzie najlepiej w takim razie...

Tylko w takim razie ty powinnaś wstawić obronę, bo jesteś jej autorką (mi byłoby wtedy głupio).

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

Wstawiłam, czekamy na moderację :P

Neoma

Powinni zmoderować to dziś w nocy...

ocenił(a) serial na 8
Gladka

Dopiero teraz się zorientowałam, Gladka, że przekręciłam twoje imię w obronie :( Przepraszam ;(
I to przeznaczenie, że dali akurat w Walentynki :)

Miśka i jak- oswoiłas nowych ludzi?

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Neoma

Ta. Pracuję tydzień, a nawet nie wiem kto jak ma na imię. Nikt ze mną nie rozmawia. Masakra co za zmiana... Ja chcę do swoich:( ale z drugiej strony lepsze to, niż brak pracy.